Step into the entrepreneurial ring with me, Cash Matthews, as I bring Ryan Jamison, a titan of industry and serial entrepreneur, into the spotlight. We throw punches at the conventional "ready, aim, fire" mantra and champion the daring "fire, aim, ready" approach. Ryan, with a storied background of homeschooling, credits his upbringing for sharpening his critical faculties, a foundation that has served him well in the cutthroat entrepreneurial arena. His insights into nurturing the seeds of business acumen in his offspring offer a glimpse into the potential perpetuation of a family legacy steeped in business savvy.
Strap in for an unfiltered look at Entrepreneur Fight, the coliseum Ryan built for the burgeoning business gladiator. His venture into coaching was sparked not by design, but by a fervent desire to guide entrepreneurs through the thorny path of their start-up years without succumbing to the predatory landscape of entrepreneurial education. Here, we dissect the intricate dance between coaching and mentorship, illuminating how these relationships evolve and diverge over time. Together, Ryan and I lay bare the raw truths of identity, self-awareness, and the essential role they play in fortifying the spirit of an entrepreneur against the inevitable trials of the business world.
We round off our discussion with an exploration of success beyond the balance sheet, where personal fulfillment and family triumph over profit margins. Ryan opens up about the profound impact his mentor, Eric, had on his journey and how integrating faith into business can lead to a more holistic measure of success. Embrace this battle cry for continuous improvement and the celebration of failures as the stepping stones they truly are. So buckle up and prepare to be armed with the wisdom and strategies you need to emerge victorious in your own entrepreneurial conquest.
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Get connected with this incredible group of Tulsa-area business owners and entrepreneurs by joining us for free at the Tulsa B.O.N.G. at https://www.facebook.com/groups/tulsabong or TulsaBONG.com. We can't wait to meet you!
Step into the entrepreneurial ring with me, Cash Matthews, as I bring Ryan Jamison, a titan of industry and serial entrepreneur, into the spotlight. We throw punches at the conventional "ready, aim, fire" mantra and champion the daring "fire, aim, ready" approach. Ryan, with a storied background of homeschooling, credits his upbringing for sharpening his critical faculties, a foundation that has served him well in the cutthroat entrepreneurial arena. His insights into nurturing the seeds of business acumen in his offspring offer a glimpse into the potential perpetuation of a family legacy steeped in business savvy.
Strap in for an unfiltered look at Entrepreneur Fight, the coliseum Ryan built for the burgeoning business gladiator. His venture into coaching was sparked not by design, but by a fervent desire to guide entrepreneurs through the thorny path of their start-up years without succumbing to the predatory landscape of entrepreneurial education. Here, we dissect the intricate dance between coaching and mentorship, illuminating how these relationships evolve and diverge over time. Together, Ryan and I lay bare the raw truths of identity, self-awareness, and the essential role they play in fortifying the spirit of an entrepreneur against the inevitable trials of the business world.
We round off our discussion with an exploration of success beyond the balance sheet, where personal fulfillment and family triumph over profit margins. Ryan opens up about the profound impact his mentor, Eric, had on his journey and how integrating faith into business can lead to a more holistic measure of success. Embrace this battle cry for continuous improvement and the celebration of failures as the stepping stones they truly are. So buckle up and prepare to be armed with the wisdom and strategies you need to emerge victorious in your own entrepreneurial conquest.
Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.
Get connected with this incredible group of Tulsa-area business owners and entrepreneurs by joining us for free at the Tulsa B.O.N.G. at https://www.facebook.com/groups/tulsabong or TulsaBONG.com. We can't wait to meet you!
Speaker 1:
Hello, entrepreneurs, dreamers, business owners and happy people with high hopes. Welcome to Cash Flows with your host, cash Matthews.
Speaker 2:
All right, good morning, happy people, friends around the country. We're glad you're here. I'm Cash Matthews, your host today for another riveting episode of Cash Flows, and our guest today is Ryan Jamieson. We'll introduce him in a minute, but first we want to say hello to the man behind the lens and the microphone, mr Kenneth Bauckham. Kenneth, good morning.
Speaker 1:
Good morning, how's it going?
Speaker 2:
What are the phrases Like? If I was any better, I'd be twins. I never understood that one, but I've had a great day, man, things are well, and I had a good breakfast with my prayer group this morning.
Speaker 2:
Life's pretty good. Yes, it is. We're excited to be here. So welcome to Cash Flows everybody. Our philosophy in life is pretty much do things as they come, and so we call that. If you see it on the sign back there fire, aim ready. And that philosophy is just about getting started, moving forward step by step, inch by inch, whatever it takes. But if you're moving in a direction, move forward towards your goals, your dreams, your aspirations, and God does not need to steer a parked car. And if you're a prayer person, I think there's action involved, and so we were excited today to bring in a fellow that I am fond of who talks about taking action, mr Ryan Jamieson. Ryan, welcome to Cash Flows.
Speaker 3:
Thank you, I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, we'll try to not muck this up for you, but I know you've got a lot to say I might be able to do that on my own too.
Speaker 3:
We'll find out.
Speaker 2:
Well, we've all got that capacity. I've watched some of our outtakes and we've done a few things. Ryan, give us just a brief update about your career, your business, why you're here, what your business is called. Give us your elevator pitch here.
Speaker 3:
The elevator pitch. I like it, yeah, okay. So basically the elevator pitch is I've been a serial entrepreneur almost 20 years, grew up in a family of entrepreneurs and I really just don't know any other way of living. After my time in the military got involved in restaurants. That's where I kind of started consulting and it just evolved from there and this is my calling.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so you're one of those guys that will work 80 hours a week. To avoid working 40 hours a week, 80 hours a week would be a vacation.
Speaker 3:
If you ask my wife yeah, so give us your family dynamic. You're married. Yes, yes, that's my wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So give us your family dynamic. You're married, yes, yes, very, very blessedly so I have my wife, kat, and then I have three beautiful demons children, and one boy, two girls, and I adore them very much, and you suspect, one day they will have watched Dad so often that they too shall become entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3:
My son is already actually showing tendencies. He has been running around drawing people pictures and then giving them to him and asking for a dollar. Oh, wow, you have to tell him first kid, you have to set the price first before you give it to him.
Speaker 2:
But hey, that's a starting point.
Speaker 3:
That's a solid pitch, you already have it Well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:
So you grew up in a family of entrepreneurs. What kind of businesses did you grow up around?
Speaker 3:
So, before I was around or aware, my father started a lumberyard, and after that one went the direction it went. He then started studying for his Series 7, 66, and opened his own financial firm. Okay, and that is where I watched someone display how to work hard. Right, I'm one of six kids. We were all homeschooled all the way through high school. My mom stayed home and she always had some entrepreneurial thing going on as well, and she homeschooled all of us. Wow, god bless your mom.
Speaker 2:
Six kids homeschooled, all of us. Wow, god bless your mom Six kids homeschooled.
Speaker 3:
I'm telling you All the way through, all the way through, all the way through.
Speaker 2:
So I mean, this is not a homeschool conversation, but it can be for a minute. I mean, how do you think that affected you through your life? I mean that's a different visual not going to public schools and not that they're bad god bless the teachers but right, I mean, how did that affect you visually as you went forward in life and to become an entrepreneur and to become a coach of entrepreneurs, right?
Speaker 3:
I think that, um, it was a gift that I really didn't understand when I was younger. Yeah, and having the ability to look back in hindsight. Now I really see the gift my parents gave me. Oh my gosh, it was focused on teaching me how to think right. I wasn't being taught or trained on a subject you know. We were encouraged to learn you know, two to three instruments.
Speaker 3:
We were encouraged to play chess. We were encouraged to go to dance lessons on top of all our regular subjects as well. My parents really used that opportunity to teach me how life operated and how it operated in high stakes environments, and how to think Wow, as a child, I just wanted to go play basketball.
Speaker 2:
That was it. That was it. And did you ever play basketball competitively anywhere? You're tall.
Speaker 3:
No no.
Speaker 2:
Can you?
Speaker 3:
shoot Hoops. No, nothing happened I respect sports for their economic value to their geographic locales. Other than that, go sporty hoops. They probably did me a favor there too.
Speaker 1:
Go sports team.
Speaker 2:
But what a great foundation, what a great upbringing, absolutely. And then you'll homeschool your children as well.
Speaker 3:
Right now we are homeschooling just kind of as a carryover from COVID, and I'm not sure if that tradition is going to continue or not. However, knowing what I know now, that is definitely going to change their educational trajectory Right For sure. Yeah, it's a focus on unlocking their mind, you know, not just shuffling them from one grade to another, if that makes sense, yeah, yeah, you know we've partially homeschooled our children all their lives at this point.
Speaker 2:
And the things that you talk about, the extra things writing poetry, learning a musical thing, traveling we call that world schooling. I think one of the best things you can do for your kids and even for your own heart, is to go see how some of the rest of the world lives. Go travel absolutely.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I mean, if you want to get educated, you want to find out, you want to do some American history and go to India or go to some of these places like Haiti, that struggle and we'd be so thankful to be here in America and we've got it good. But with that, we do have it good. Yes, absolutely, and you're out in the entrepreneurial world now as a coach, and let's talk about first the name of your coaching enterprise. It's called Entrepreneur Fight. All right, we can find you at entrepreneurfightcom. That is correct. All right, tell us about Entrepreneur Fight. Yeah, I mean, just give us the little overview of that.
Speaker 3:
So a snapshot of Entrepreneur Fight. It's the brainchild of the entrepreneurial experience from beginning to at least where I'm at now. Okay, and it was built with my younger entrepreneurial self in mind.
Speaker 2:
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:
That's interesting.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Well, because you know when you start, you struggle you know, and there's a lot that goes into that, and I remember just wanting someone to take a shot on me, just someone, like if someone would show up for like 15 minutes, right, or be able to answer a question once, or twice, a week, and so that's what Entrepreneur Fight is designed to be is a community where we all come together as entrepreneurs, we share experiences, we have educational resources and it's fairly new.
Speaker 3:
So we're growing and we're learning, and I'm hoping to have other mentors, coaches and educators join me in the platform soon.
Speaker 2:
That's a great idea. So what made you decide, though, to be like a direct coach? I mean, entrepreneur fight's a cool thing, right. But your coaching is more one-on-one right now with entrepreneurs. I mean, okay, so there's a few coaches out there, a few, and I love coaching. I love the concept of coaching. I think without it, we're doomed. Tell us what made you decide to be a coach.
Speaker 3:
I kind of fell into that by accident. I'm not like to be perfectly frank. I fell into it. I had, after I got out of the military, I started in restaurants because it was, like you know, just taming chaos and I loved it. Right and so I got asked by some other restaurant owners after I'd had some time, like you know, how would they fix this? So I kind of did some consulting and then people just kept like showing up and asking and I was like all right, well, hey you know I'm going to charge for this.
Speaker 3:
And then I found out that I really enjoyed it and kind of branched out from restaurants to entrepreneurs. And now I do it because I am mildly irritated by the massive industry that targets entrepreneurs, specifically newer ones.
Speaker 2:
Right. So you said there's a lot of coaches out there. We said that kind of jokingly in your intake Do we need more? Are we short a few?
Speaker 3:
No, I don't think we're short a few, that's for sure I do. Let's put it this way there is a lot of information out there. There's a lot of people out there that say they know something and they're willing to give it to you. However, what ends up happening is they tap you, they use that whole like address the problem, agitate the problem, make it worse, make you feel like they can save you, and they walk off, essentially in some cases, and so I just became obsessed with empowering entrepreneurs, like that's, to help them fight the odds. Right, that's my mission, that's who?
Speaker 2:
I am Okay. So let's focus on fighting the odds. I mean, first, we all know the odds of sustaining as an entrepreneur beyond a few years. You know a lot of people give these numbers 80% fail. I don't know about that, I don't like to focus on that. That's too generic for me. Right? Because the question an entrepreneur wants to know is not what the other 40 million do. What are my odds? What do I do? Yeah, what is my chance to go make it? So let's talk about the odds. Tell me about the odds.
Speaker 3:
So the reason why I focus primarily on startup through the first three years is because that's where the majority of them struggle, or when you're first starting out a business. This is where everything is new, right, and so, like some of the odds they face right, they face the lack of agile resources, they face a business credit system that can be very difficult to understand right, and they face a very motivated pseudo-education industry that focuses on them. And not that there isn't good, you know, there's obviously good resources and there's a lot of people. I can recommend that I've spent a lot of money on people, obviously, and, but there's a lot of bad actors out there too. And when you're new, how can you tell the difference? Right, how?
Speaker 2:
do you differentiate? So what, then, is the difference between and I think this is an important question, yeah, and I think I have you pigeonholed into one more of these. There are a lot of coaches, yeah.
Speaker 1:
And there are a lot of great coaches.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely I love some of these people, but then there's also this role of mentor, yeah, and I know a little bit about you. I know you're a coach, but I also see you as a mentor to some people, and I think that's a much deeper relationship, one that you know it definitely probably has a lot longer timeline, regardless of the money. Yeah, talk to us about mentorship.
Speaker 3:
So the difference I see between mentorship and coaching coaching is essentially where you take someone where they're at you, assess their individual situation there, you go Right and then you work with that situation. Specifically, a mentor is someone who comes alongside you, gets to know you as an individual and works with you based on how you're built as a person, and I learned that from my mentor. It's not uncommon for my mentor to be just announced out of nowhere. Don't do that, ryan. How?
Speaker 3:
did you know, don't do that. I don't like people to know me like that?
Speaker 2:
Can a coach be your mentor? Is that a different role?
Speaker 3:
I think, to a certain degree, yes and no. So, for instance, like in the beginning again the startup the first three years it's difficult to find a resource that is one accessible and two able to work with you in a variety of roles without encumbering you with a variety of different systems. So, yes, I think coaches can be mentors, but only in a very specific time period in your business. Those roles definitely need to be separated and, just on average, I found it's around the two to three-year mark Right. My goal is to get them away from me as soon as possible.
Speaker 2:
So you and I have been part of the same pretty large group of networking people here in this community over 7,000 people Love it too. And the majority of those are under three years.
Speaker 1:
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:
And you're finding, and those numbers I mentioned, x number of people fail in the first three to five years. And that's true. Yes, but you're working in that world to change that end result. Yes, but you're working in that world to change that end result. Is there one common thing that those entrepreneurs face on a daily or monthly basis? Yes, yeah, what is that thing?
Speaker 3:
Entrepreneurs have been told or sold what to think from day one. Oh, okay, Expand on this for a minute. Yeah, absolutely no-transcript. Get to know themselves and how to work with themselves and how to think through their own processes and how to use those processes of who you are and the way you're built in your business. You get so much further.
Speaker 2:
And probably quicker as well, oh yeah, and it stays longer.
Speaker 3:
It has staying power because you're not on some sort of self-explorative journey at the same time. As you know, like like I always, this is a very industry piece of industry piece of advice, I know, but I always tell entrepreneurs, especially new ones, don't go on a journey of self-discovery when you're starting a business. You need to start a business. Who you are, you need to know who you are. You need to deal with it as the way you are, because if you go in and you start changing yourself, okay, I mean and again, self-improvement's great, but if you start changing who you are as you're starting a new business, that business will never go anywhere because it doesn't have an identity, because you don't have one right.
Speaker 2:
So, and by the time they've started some entrepreneurial endeavor, presumably they've already found themselves or discovered themselves.
Speaker 3:
That would be the hope you would be surprised. Knowing what you do, you probably wouldn't be surprised, but there's a lot that don't even know. It's a thing.
Speaker 2:
Well, there are active entrepreneurs. I knew I was going to be an entrepreneur from the time I was eight. It never occurred to me that I'd ever have a job Right, so I was an active entrepreneur, it was just going to happen. But we also find there are lots of reactive entrepreneurs. I lost a job, a spouse, an opportunity, something happened, I had an illness, and they find themselves being so. Those are more reactive entrepreneurs. Can you work with both sides of that?
Speaker 3:
Yeah, so as a coach, slash, mentor or within the program or platform itself, the goal is to find out where you are and give you what you need to move to the next step, to where I can. Again, I know the way this sounds, but my goal is to hand you off to someone as quickly as possible Right. Hand you off to someone as quickly as possible Right, because the world that I'm in, the place that these entrepreneurs are typically in when I work with them, is chaotic. It's confusing, there's a lot of fear. I mean, like you don't want to admit it when you're new.
Speaker 3:
You gotta drive the car and you don't have the I'm doing great, and inside you're like wanting to puke because you don't have to make payroll. So it's, and I know what. So it's an interesting position, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:
So moving forward. I mean, let's talk for a second just about coaching in general, because I am a coaching fan. I believe in it 100%. If you're doing it like, if you're acting as a coach man, I think that's a worthy position. I love athletics. I'm a golfer. I was a bicycle racer. You know I've managed things. What a way to. I was a bicycle racer.
Speaker 3:
You know I've managed things. What a way to put that bicycle racer.
Speaker 2:
And I've managed stuff for some Olympians, you know, and I get to see performance at a high level. I was able to perform for a while at a high level. I'm a big fan of golf. Favorite golfer is Jack Nicklaus. Every January, even when he already had climbed the mountain, would go back to his coach every year and say, hey, teach me to play golf, start from the beginnings. And guys like Tiger Woods and John Elway people that I have favorite I don't have favorite with them, but that are athletes that I follow. And Larry Bird man, they give a lot of Michael Jordan give a lot of credit to the coaching they received on the way up.
Speaker 2:
And there are so many of us entrepreneurs that we aspire and I'll just call it the rock star level. You know, we aspire to this rock star level of life. We want to make it big, but we don't want to do the things that the rock star level of people do. And the one thing that they all have in common is they have a coach. Yes, I love watching some of the like the hard rock band. I love all kinds of music, but you see one of the guys that's in, you know some death metal deal, but when they talk to him as a human not the stage guy, but as a human he'll say man.
Speaker 2:
My fifth grade music teacher right taught me how to play cello there was this catalyst moment? Yeah, and I think coaches recognize in others things that those others only imagine to be true about themselves, and so I salute the coaches. Man, I have been coached and we all have a what's the? Right word. I guess we all have a blind spot, Kenneth.
Speaker 3:
So bias, bias, blindness is what I call it. Yeah, you can't see what's you know, even even as a coach right, I have a mentor. Yeah, absolutely you have to have one Right, and there'll be times where I'm like I do not understand why this isn't working and my mentor will be like because you know you shouldn't do it like that, you tell your people not to do it like that. I'm like oh, am I doing it backwards? And he goes yeah.
Speaker 2:
I'm like oh Well, we can't see what we can't see, we don't know what we don't know. Right, and to have that extra set of eyes to have another set of eyes and I don't know.
Speaker 2:
I think people get caught up on the price, worrying about paying somebody, and the last coach we visited with our topic was hey, the cost of having a coach is X, but you ought to see the cost of not having a coach If you're pursuing a dream or a vision or a plan, and having that extra set of eyeballs it's worth 10x easy in my brain. So, very cool, we're going to take a quick break and say thank you to some of our sponsors today.
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
All right, thank you for that, sir. We're glad to have MFP as a sponsor and we're here today with Ryan Jamieson. You can find Ryan on the web at entrepreneurfightcom. You'll have to Google how to spell entrepreneur.
Speaker 3:
Still use spell check.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, entrepreneurfightcom and Ryan Jamieson is a coach for entrepreneurs and we're talking today about those first three years of business and how critical that is as an entrepreneur usually a newer entrepreneur or a new endeavor. So let's segue out of that and I understand your mission and I admire it and I support it 100%. Well, thank you, but we have to ask the question that our listeners and viewers are asking and why you? Why me? Yeah, let's talk about you for a second. Why not some other coach? Why not some other method? Can't we just go to Dr Google or find it online?
Speaker 3:
Go to University of YouTube. Yes, the University of YouTube.
Speaker 2:
That's a new one.
Speaker 3:
You know, I know that I'm not sure that's the thing it's like. I know that usually there's some sort of spiel we're supposed to launch into as coaches Like you can believe me.
Speaker 3:
You know, I just never got that, but here's what I can tell you. I remember what it felt like. I remember it being confusing. I remember it being confusing. I remember the fear I remember having. I remember standing on the porch of my house asking myself how do I tell my wife that I can't pay any of these bills? I remember that with a vividly, and that is what formed me as an entrepreneur. And so, as a coach, I'm really doing this for me. I'm doing this for the younger me, for the younger entrepreneurs. Now, obviously, I can't go back in time, but so I'm, I'm, I'm going back for the others to give them what I was just dying for, right, you know. So I'm not saying I'm the best coach out there probably far from it but what I, what I, what I am is, I'm coming back for you and I'll give you what I have and I'll tell you what I know, and I will get you to the next expert that I can get you to, and so that's why me.
Speaker 2:
Well, I think that's a great answer. I noticed recently you had stated a goal publicly, like just during this year you want to meet a hundred new entrepreneurs face to face for coffee and I always felt like and I've met with you a few times and I always enjoy our time together.
Speaker 2:
But I think those moments, just, I think the first coaching event for everybody is when you sit down to have coffee and they, they have that moment where they become themselves around you. You know, the bravado might be gone and that may take two visits, but you know, I think there's, I think there's a very subtle thing. I mean there, do you find a value in these one-on-ones that we do out for coffee, you know, or do people open up to you?
Speaker 3:
I have a very selfish reason for doing one-on-ones. Okay, let's do do dish. Um, as you stated earlier, a large number of the people in in the group the bong are in their first one to three. And it's easy because you I own another company with my brother. I'm lucky, I'm so blessed to work with my family, and it's easy to get into life and into business and forget where you came from, and it's easy to forget the people that need you, right? And so I do these one-on-ones one because these are my people right, this is what.
Speaker 3:
I'm born to do. This is who I, this is what I am born to do. But you can't do what you're born to do if you get get disconnected from it. So, yeah, I sit down and we have a one-on-ones, and there'll be a few, and I've actually, I've actually, I've actually told a few people that I've met this. I'm like, hey, so I have a problem. And they're like what's that? I'm like I tend to kind of turn these things into coaching sessions, and then I never shut up and they're like, oh, okay, but by the end of it it's usually something along the lines of like you know, thank you, okay, but by the end of it it's usually something along the lines of like, you know, thank you, and it's a common practice to post a picture, you know, in the bong afterwards.
Speaker 3:
And I started forgetting to do that. And then I in my world, right, what I teach is something like we don't do things on accident. There's a subconscious reason. So I went on that exploration journey and what I realized was if people know that I do these one-on-ones and they know that they end up turning into coaching sessions of some sort, putting them out there on the Internet saying, hey, they met with a business coach may not be what they want.
Speaker 2:
What they need or what works for them. So you think there's some kind of social stigma that people might have if you're working with a coach? Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3:
Especially in this one-to-three meeting with a coach, I have found to be very stigmatized Wow.
Speaker 2:
My name is Cash Matthews. I've been in business 42 years and I've used a coach for about 35 of them, and I still do today, and without my coaching team and mentors, this thing that has worked for us would not have worked nearly as well. I love flying places to get coaching. Three or four times a year I'll be gone for three or four days to go, sit with a notepad and humility, Right and just learn.
Speaker 3:
I mean, like you know, you spend money on this stuff, right, of course, but well into the six figures I've spent on education for myself. Oh yeah, I'm investing in me right. Right, this is not a game where I get to be like I guess this is the right thing, right? Do I really want to go home to my wife and kids be like hey, I guessed I did. Okay, I don't know, it's fine, you know. So, yeah, no, it's uh. I will have a mentor until the day I die?
Speaker 2:
yeah for sure. And you, uh, you wouldn't go to a doctor that didn't get continuing education. Oh not, yeah, I mean you. You want no, it's not a purpose you want these professionals in your life to be coached. Yeah, you know, and you need that's a tough one to go to somebody and go hey, where'd you?
Speaker 1:
learn all.
Speaker 2:
It's on purpose you want these professionals in your life to be coached? Yeah, you know, and you need. That's a tough one to go to somebody and go hey, where'd you learn all this? Like, eh, you know the YouTube.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, the YouTube, I got it in school.
Speaker 3:
TikTok. It's well, you can always tell this is a litmus test, right? You can always tell someone who is a good coach or mentor if they talk about their failures, if they talk about their mistakes, the things they did wrong, how to avoid these things and how to leave them. So my mentor, eric and I dread this day. There's a day where he's going to send me out the door, right, and I really don't want that to happen, right. But he knows there's a time and so do I.
Speaker 2:
Time to move on. Yeah, I think we're called to do that. You know time to move on, move up, and you know, but that's, I think, that moment. Even when a coach like you moves on and moves up, it's to the next better thing.
Speaker 3:
Yes, yes, I have to continue. I have to continue bettering myself because there's more I need to know. And yes, because I want to better myself, but because I want to be better for the people I work with. Yeah, you know, my mission is to work with them, so why would I subject?
Speaker 2:
myself to. Ignorance isn't the right word, but why would I allow myself to get dull? Yeah for sure. Yeah, that's a. People want a rock star lifestyle, but they have a g cord mentality and they've.
Speaker 3:
They've learned one little part of it and I hate that rock star lifestyle thing hey, I have a whole other rock star lifestyle story.
Speaker 1:
I'll tell you off the air, but you know I.
Speaker 2:
I think what you said there about a coach sharing their failures. I think that is so beautiful and brutal and we're going to do a podcast on my failures. It'll be 372 hours for episode one Can.
Speaker 1:
I come listen and watch In a 10-session series. Yeah, it's a really big memory card we record that, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:
But I mean, you don't learn from succeeding, right, you observe from succeeding, oh, do this, do this, do this. But man, it's the failures that really burn.
Speaker 3:
I mean, Fail fast, fail often.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, learn, but move forward, stumble forward. Right, you know that's been falling forward. Yeah, I'm just a stumble forward guy and I and I don't know if I learned that from a coach or just from practical application and somebody when I first started said man, try to get one percent better a month and then in five years you're 50 better. Then I'm like, well, what if I could get one percent better a week, or two percent better a week? And now that I have been in this realm for 42 years, I think anybody can get better 2% a week.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's entirely possible by what you read, what you listen to. Turn the TV off, shut off social media, get a coach, write down. I mean just some of the basics that I think all three of us take for granted. But I think anybody can get 2% better a week and I think they can do that a hundred weeks in a row and all of a sudden they go from. You know starting income, you know we have a. We have a person in our bond group. I don't want to say who they are, but they started their business like two weeks before coming to the first bond event. They've been coming now for two years. Income first year 14 000. They're just getting going like it was tough and we don't know what we're doing. Uh. Income second year I gotta make sure I get this right 95 000.
Speaker 2:
yes, I'm sorry, yeah, I'm there Income for this year 2024, on track for $165,000. That's freaking fantastic. No college degree and if you measure this person's life against yours, you would say that they've had some more challenges. And here this person is like, yeah, I've got some challenges, they're over here, but my future's over here. And I love those stories. Man, like I'll listen to that story all day, every day, because you know they aren't supposed to fly, but they do, yeah, and they often fly the furthest. And people, you know what if I fail? Well, what if I fly? You know what if it works?
Speaker 3:
Well, I tell people all the time, like you are in the best country in the world to fail.
Speaker 1:
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, like you know in other countries, if you fail, like okay, you're going to starve in the gutter now.
Speaker 2:
Possibly.
Speaker 3:
Here it's like all right. Well, you know, if you have to, you declare bankruptcy and you go to the in some cases like the government programs and make sure you eat and then you get back on the horse.
Speaker 2:
You know this is a great country to fail in, you know, and this is a great city to be in for business. Honestly, Absolutely, I've moved here for Tulsa's economy 7,000 plus members. And if any of you is hungry or homeless you can come live with me and I'll feed you. And there's hundreds of us with that thing in our world.
Speaker 3:
I love teaching people skills and trades and stuff, so I'm always down to do that too Well, so let's talk about Entrepreneur Fight.
Speaker 2:
I want to hear about that. What is it? How does it work?
Speaker 3:
So Entrepreneur Fight, like I said, is the brainchild. It's the culmination of a series of experiences that went one direction or the other. When humans experience trauma, they go violently in the other direction, Right, right, and it's a memory that gets burned into your brain and it starts wiring things. The only way to unwire is to get around someone who can say, hey, I see where you're hurt, but, trust me, you have to try it again. It's a community. We have to be communities. I was telling you earlier, like this rock star, grind culture, toxic crap, yeah, okay, it hurts people, it ruins people Because it tells you put your head down, go to work. If you're not making money, work harder, because obviously something's wrong with you. And in a community of people, there's people like me, like you, like Kenneth, and then say what are you doing? Why are you doing that? Who are you?
Speaker 3:
And so Entrepreneur Fight was developed by myself and my brother, ethan, was also a big part of it and we wanted a community to exist solely for entrepreneurs. There's a platform that we've been developing and working on. It's basically there, but what it is? I call it a social learning network. Oh nice. So there's a social media component to we get together there's. You know, uh, can you say newsfeed? I'm gonna say, anyway, sure, it's like newsfeed. There's groups, there's social groups, there's education. You know, right now I'm the only one on there in terms of the mentor because, you know, no one's ever ever invited anybody yet. But I made it in a way where it's like, if you are a mentor and you have something to offer, come in here Right, like, help me fight for these younger versions of ourselves. You know, we cannot forget where we came from, and the entrepreneurs who forget where they came from don't understand what success is. So they may have money or some really cool stuff, but that's not success in my book.
Speaker 2:
So entrepreneurfightcom, by the way, is where you can meet and greet Ryan Jameson and learn about his coaching protocol and maybe create a relationship with him that could rapidly and long-term benefit the outcome of all these efforts.
Speaker 3:
My username is FirstFighter87. Firstfighter87.
Speaker 2:
Had to come up with one to test it. So is it an interactive kind of group? Is it a group setting? Do people talk to each other on your website, or is it just for receiving information?
Speaker 3:
That's what it's designed to do. It's designed to allow people to put information out. If you look at like a Facebook group, there's a place where people can put information out and kind of mingle with each other. However, where I feel like the platform differs is we're able to create specific groups around a mentor or around courses or around content specifically, and it allows us to say, hey, you know, if you're inside this, if you're specifically learning about how to run the taxes, better right, because I will not be teaching, by the way. You know, there's just going to be a specific group for that. There's going to be the educator and other people in there sharing their experiences, and it's going to really condense that information down to its most potent form and it's not going to be drowned out by a bunch of other random stuff. The random stuff, the fun stuff, the social stuff.
Speaker 2:
It has its place over there Right, but not in here.
Speaker 3:
Right, got it place over there. Right, this is not in here, right, got it? Um, and my, my main request and I mean, as as we develop, my main request of other uh, mentors, course creators and stuff obviously I need to meet you first, right, we need to talk first, for sure. Um, my main request is I need you to put out one at least free course or coaching or teaching something, because a large part of why people struggle with mentorship is that price tag, right, right. And so, like I remember, like going to visit a mentor and they're like, yeah, it's like you know, eight grand for a month.
Speaker 3:
I'm like I have no doubt that you're worth it. None, like I know you're worth it. Can you teach me how to make the money for you so I can give it to you? And they just looked at me like they'd never heard of that concept. And so Entrepreneur Fight is also designed to help you earn the stages, earn the money to get through these places and get through these things. It's not enough to say, hey, we know you need it and this is what it's worth it needs to be. Here's how you're going to make that money to get that first. Mentor, got it.
Speaker 2:
Very cool, all right, so now, as we talked about earlier, you're kind of perfect, perfect, yeah, and you have it all figured out and you're wildly successful.
Speaker 3:
Well, I think the only one who thinks I'm perfect like if you viewed me from God's eyes, right, or his perspective, or my daughter, my daughters think I'm perfect. That will be great someday, yeah, Until they're 13. Right and man, I wish I could say I had it all figured out, but that's why I have a mentor, my mentor Eric. He has shaped my life in a way that you can't sit down and describe. So I can't say I have it all figured out, but I did figure out the most important part.
Speaker 3:
You can't buy experience, but you can pay experienced people, darrell.
Speaker 1:
Bock Ooh, I think that's one of those, darrell Bock.
Speaker 2:
That's a quote from Raul.
Speaker 3:
Jameson, that was my father. He put that one together. I totally stole it. Sorry, dad. Darrell Bock, oh, now it's yours internet as far. Yeah, by my metrics I am wildly successful.
Speaker 2:
There you go. Yeah Well, so I know you're a man of faith. Tell us how your faith and your business and your philosophies all intertwine.
Speaker 3:
So now this is a really fun one, and I found that entrepreneurs, who you know, who are believers, have a couple of very common struggles. I have to pursue financial gain, but how do I do that without money becoming my idol? What's the difference between giving God the glory and using him as an advertisement or billboard, and using them as an advertisement or billboard? And what I have found as an entrepreneur in my faith system is I literally I start every morning intentionally having a conversation out loud. The power of speaking out loud is not to be understated. I spend my time first in the morning speaking out loud to the Lord. I'm saying, hey, let's do this. Are you ready? Like obviously he's ready, but you're ready Like am I ready?
Speaker 3:
You know, what do you got coming today, you know, and I'm just excited to participate in it. And I found that if I do that and I walk, I actively walk in my faith, in my life, my businesses, my home, my family, everything follows the way it needs to, even if it doesn't look the way I think it should, because you know I have very strong opinions. I know that's a surprise to you, that's not surprising to me.
Speaker 2:
Well, I mean a coach should have some strong opinions.
Speaker 3:
A few. Yeah, have some opinions that don't make a lot of sense and a man of faith should have some opinions, a few.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I think that's awesome. So tell me, before we get into our final our biz nugget at the end, our biz bite talk a little bit about the metrics of defining success, because I think you have a different view than most people. You're not a big fan of the work 100 hours a week and avoid your family. You're not a fan of success at all costs, and I admire that about you. I think success at all costs will cost you.
Speaker 3:
Success is a word that's been weaponized by people who sell stuff, and I find it unfortunate, because it's hard to talk about success with people without them immediately getting an image of a learjet, a lamborghini and piles of cash. Right, and okay, my, my personal metric of success I get to go home to a house every night, right?
Speaker 3:
mm-hmm there's people that don't get that right. I get to go home to my family some people that don't have that. I have a relationship with my earthly father in a way that sons dream about having. You know it's. It's the kind of relationship I hope to have with my son. I get to watch my daughters grow up and help hopefully show them some poor version of what a man should look like. I get to experience life every day with my best friend and my soulmate, my wife. But all of that stuff aside, I know that my eternal future is secured because I'm redeemed by the blood of Jesus and nothing else comes close. The mere Thank you, the mere thought or suggestion of anything other just feels so empty. I've had money. It's not that fun. I've had nice cars. What I do now is we get a car, we post it for sale and that's what I drive, Because everywhere I go I'm advertising a car for sale. Right.
Speaker 1:
Why not?
Speaker 3:
But that's my metric for success. I measure it by the weight of my soul.
Speaker 2:
That's beautiful man, and the idea that you know, and I think a lot of us lose this. I had lost this for a portion of my own time out working and trying to build and run high and you know you're who's who in business but you're who's he at home and that's no way to live and I must tell that you may that that good. That was my life for a while and I was never really concerned about you know, some of the physical stuff. I'm a beige human and I drive a beige vehicle and the paint on my house is beige and I like that middle road where my family is first. You know, in my daily activities, you know, and I'm thankful for my faith. Some people say my faith is first. Well, it kind of becomes everything.
Speaker 2:
And then that's the bubble of your life. And then inside that you know number one you want to take care of your family. Right, that's what we're called to do. And then your business sort of follows that and hopefully they blend. I mean, we all make mistakes, right?
Speaker 3:
oh yeah, you know, like recently I've been working more hours than usual. My wife is carrying the water, you know. But you know, that's that's our, that's our partnership, right, right. So you know, shout out to the domestic engineers um, there isn't a world where we're going to do it perfect.
Speaker 2:
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3:
But the goal is, when my kids look back on my life or look back at their dad, when the people I've interacted with look back at what I did when I entered their world and then exited it entered their world and then exited it I want the impression to be that the overwhelming net effect was good. Yes, but I also want them to look at it and go. There was something really supernaturally different about that guy. Yeah, Because I want them to go find that ultimate success that I have, you know, the eternal security.
Speaker 2:
All right, we are here with Ryan Jamieson. Ryan is the founder of EntrepreneurFightcom. He's a business coach and somebody that you at least ought to have a cup of coffee with, because it might turn into a coaching session, and I love coffee and he loves coffee, so that's a good sign. Ryan, let's do our end of the story, business bite, or what do we call it?
Speaker 1:
Oh yeah, the biz bite.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Oh man, I didn't have the sound effect ready. I wasn't ready for that Biz bites there it is.
Speaker 3:
Biz bites All right, do it for you next time.
Speaker 2:
Biz bites.
Speaker 3:
That's pretty good. Right there, you've got a second career blooming.
Speaker 2:
All right, talk to us. Just give us a nugget that an entrepreneur could hear and take with them, and something that I could use today also.
Speaker 3:
Right. I think the most important thing that I could tell an entrepreneur today I've had like 10 seconds. Lose the fantasy of being a superhero entrepreneur. No one gets there on their own and you won't either. You need to find your team, you need to find your Eric, you need to find your network, you need to find your eternal security and you need to immerse yourself in it. And your true metric of success. Whether you know what your true metric of success is or not, your true metric of success will show up for you.
Speaker 2:
All right, kenneth, pretty good stuff today, right?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:
All right, we're here with Ryan Jameson, entrepreneurfightcom. You can also find him on Facebook and YouTube. I'm around, he's around. You can find him on TulsaBongcom. This very podcast and video will be on TulsaBongcom Absolutely and all over YouTube under the Cash Flows with Cash Matthews podcast. So I think that's going to be a wrap for today. We thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:
This show is designed to help other people. It is designed to help you move forward at your pace and on your goals and not somebody else's, and we love having coaches that can really delineate and talk about finding your spot. You know, god knit you together, especially unique in your mother's womb. And what a great time to be alive in this world. Guys, today, as we wrap up, let's think about one thing Maybe today is a great day to go forgive somebody who absolutely doesn't deserve it, and forgiveness is rarely about that other person, but it is about you and having a clear path to run on, and sometimes those anchors that we've attached to our own belt need to be dismantled and tossed into the deepest part of the ocean and therefore you're able to run free because, after all, you've been forgiven eternally. Wouldn't it be great to forgive somebody who's done something to you. God bless you all. Thanks for being here today with Cash Flows.
Speaker 1:
That's our show for today. Stay tuned for another riveting edition of cash flows.
